作者usnavyseal (usmarine2008)
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標題[外絮] 球評: 費城麻煩了 LBJ跳投太爛 鉛筆表現差
時間Thu Nov 12 11:01:13 2026
https://x.com/hoopstonite/status/2120669735276962203
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R10CJzElZ-w
The Volume的球評Jason Timpf 之前多次上過ptt
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1. Sixers Defensive Strategy 76人的防守策略
If your goal is to beat the Boston Celtics, it can't be, "We're going to
exist in rotation." They're too good at playing that style of basketball.
And so, what I'll be really curious to see, because this is a potential
playoff matchup, this could be an Eastern Conference Finals matchup, this
could be an Eastern Conference Semifinals matchup, I'll be really curious to
see how much Nick Nurse tweaks the defensive aggression against this
particular matchup, simply because of what we talked about.
如果你的目標是擊敗波士頓塞爾提克,那你的防守策略就不能是讓自己不斷陷入輪轉補防
因為他們太擅長利用這種防守方式了。
所以,我非常好奇接下來會發生什麼事。畢竟這可能是季後賽的對戰組合,可能是東區冠
軍賽,也可能是東區準決賽。我真的很想知道,Nick Nurse 面對這個特定對手時,
究竟會在多大程度上調整防守的侵略性,原因就是我們剛才討論的那些問題。
Boston off the catch is lethal, and they killed the Sixers last night. You
have to kind of have a "live with it" attitude. If Paul George hits a tough
pull-up three against drop coverage, you have to shake his hand and trust the
defense. If Payton Pritchard hits a tough step-back three in isolation, you
have to trust the process. Stick with the scheme.
Understanding that over 34 of those, even on a night where we all admit
Boston shot extremely well, they barely got one point per shot on those.
Whereas every time they got into rotation, Boston killed them with those
off-the-catch jump shots.
塞爾提克的接球出手極具殺傷力,昨晚他們靠這招打爆76人。
你必須抱持一種「有些球就是得認了」的心態。
如果 Paul George 面對沉退防守,投進一記高難度的急停三分球,那你就只能向他致意
,然後繼續相信自己的防守。
如果Pritchard 在單打時,投進一記高難度的後撤步三分球,你也必須相信整套防守策略
,堅持原本的防守體系。
要知道,即使是在我們都承認塞爾提克昨晚手感極佳的情況下,
他們那34次出手,平均每次出手也才勉強拿到1分左右。
相較之下,每當76人被迫進入輪轉補防,塞爾提克就會利用那些接球後立即出手的跳投,
狠狠懲罰他們。
So that's the kind of thing that I want to see with Nick Nurse as this team
improves over the course of the season and prepares for that rematch on
January 21st.
Is Nick Nurse flexible enough to be willing to live with Jayson Tatum and
Jaylen Brown—or excuse me, Jayson Tatum, Paul George, Payton Pritchard,
Derrick White—taking off-the-dribble jump shots rather than easy
catch-and-shoot, in-rhythm threes because you're constantly throwing the
kitchen sink at the ball?
所以,隨著76人在賽季中逐漸進步,並準備1/21的下次交手,我最想看Nurse的變化
Nick Nurse 究竟有沒有足夠的彈性,願意接受Tatum、George、Pritchard 和White
在運球後自行創造跳投機會?
而不是因為你不斷對持球者施加各種防守壓力,最後反而讓他們得到輕鬆、節奏順暢的接
球三分機會?
2. LeBron's Shooting Struggles LBJ的投籃問題
That's why it's interesting with this Philly team. If you look at their
metrics, their offense looks bad and their defense looks great. But I'm
actually more concerned about their defense than I am about their offense in
the big picture.
So, for instance, on the offensive end, LeBron was terrible last night, and
I'm legitimately disappointed in LeBron for being this bad of a jump shooter
again.
這也是為什麼我覺得這支費城76人很有意思。如果你去看他們的進階數據,他們的進攻看
起來很糟糕,防守卻非常出色。但從整體來看,我其實更擔心他們的防守,而不是進攻。
舉例來說,在進攻端,LeBron 昨晚的表現非常糟糕。
而且,看到 LeBron 的跳投再次爛成這樣,我真的感到非常失望。
It was abundantly clear last year that your inability to hit catch-and-shoot
threes hurt the Lakers. You move to a team where you're surrounded by all
this elite ball handling, and once again, you're getting all these wide-open
catch-and-shoot threes, and you can't make them.
In his career, he has typically responded well to poor jump-shooting seasons
by addressing that concern in the summer and coming back the next year as a
better jump shooter.
去年就已經非常清楚了,你無法命中接球三分球的問題,傷害了湖人隊。
現在你轉到另一支球隊,身邊有這麼多頂尖的持球好手,
結果你又一次獲得大量完全空檔
的接球三分機會,卻還是投不進。
回顧 LeBron 的職業生涯,每當他經歷一個跳投表現不佳的賽季,通常都能在夏天針對這
個問題做出改善,並在隔年以更好的投籃能力回歸。
I think his jumper looks terrible, and it's deeper than just whether or not
they're going in. He's hesitant on a lot of them. He doesn't look like he
wants to shoot them. His form looks like he's all over the place, shooting
with a different form every single time.
LeBron's jump shot is a problem right now.
但我認為他現在的跳投動作看起來非常糟糕。而且問題不只是球有沒有投進這麼簡單。
他在很多次出手時都顯得猶豫不決,看起來根本不想投籃。他的投籃姿勢也非常不穩定,
幾乎每次出手都像是用了不同的動作。LeBron 的跳投現在確實是個問題。
3. Embiid's Poor Performance 鉛筆的糟糕表現
Joel Embiid is an absolute mess on both ends of the floor right now and has
been for a couple of weeks.
It's in every facet of the game. Neemias Queta was kicking his ass on the
glass last night.
If you have a center that can't rebound, that can't defend in a drop, but
also can't defend in a high drop—he was in a high-drop or a low-drop look
last night in the first half and just let Payton Pritchard waltz to the rim
for a layup.
Joel Embiid 現在在攻防兩端根本就是一團亂,而且這種情況已經持續好幾個星期了。
他的問題幾乎出現在比賽的每個層面。昨晚Queta在搶籃板上 根本把他打得毫無招架之力
如果你有一個中鋒,他搶不到籃板,無法執行沉退防守,甚至連高位沉退防守都做不好
昨晚上半場,他明明採取了高位或低位沉退防守的站位,卻就這樣讓 Payton Pritchard
輕輕鬆鬆地一路切進籃下上籃得分。
I'm like, that's the one thing that coverage has to take away.
If he's not protecting the rim, if he's not defending in space, if he's not
rebounding, if he can't make jump shots, and if he can't score out of the
post, he's a damaging basketball player right now.
我當下就在想,這明明就是這種防守策略最應該阻止的事情。
如果他無法保護籃框,無法在外圍空間防守,搶不到籃板,投不進跳投,甚至連低位單打
都無法得分……那他現在就是一個會傷害球隊的籃球員。
4. Outlook for Sixers Offense 76人進攻端的未來展望
Whether it's through natural rhythm over the course of the season as those
guys, LeBron and Embiid in particular, work into shape, or it's just them
getting lots of reps together as a team, I am not worried about the Sixers'
offense eventually figuring things out.
Also, their offense is more built for the postseason environment.
It is much harder to get clean catch-and-shoot looks in the playoffs with how
good the defenses are, with their game planning, their scouting, and the
intensity of their rotations.
不管是隨著賽季進行,LeBron 和 Embiid 這些球員逐漸找回比賽節奏、恢復身體狀態,
還是整支球隊透過大量實戰累積默契,我都不擔心76人的進攻最終無法找到解決辦法。
而且,他們的進攻體系其實更適合季後賽的環境。到了季後賽,想要獲得乾淨的接球投籃
機會會困難得多。因為季後賽球隊的防守實在太好了,不論是賽前的戰術部署、
針對其他隊的情蒐,還是防守輪轉的強度,都會大幅提升。
And all of a sudden, having all of that talent, especially talent that can
thrive in the mid-range and attack matchups, is a huge asset.
So it's weird because you've got this bottom-10 Sixers offense, but I'm just
not worried about them on that end of the floor in the big picture.
I expect them to steadily get better over the course of the regular season. I
expect LeBron to steadily get better as he continues to get into shape.
I do think Embiid's eventually going to play a lot better. He can't play any
worse, so Embiid's going to play better.
而在這種環境下,擁有這麼多天賦出眾的球員,尤其是那些擅長中距離進攻、能夠針對特
定對位發動攻擊的球員,就會成為一項巨大的優勢。所以這才是奇怪的地方。
76人現在的進攻效率排名聯盟倒數十名,但從整體來看,我就是不擔心他們的進攻。
我預期他們會在例行賽期間持續進步。我也預期 LeBron 隨著身體狀態逐漸恢復,
表現會越來越好。我確實認為 Embiid 最終會打得好很多。
畢竟他不可能打得比現在更差,所以他的表現一定會改善。
Jaylen Brown's not playing well to start the season. He's eventually going to
play better. Like, Jaylen Brown, a lot of talk about your rivalry with the
Celtics. A lot of talk about how you're going to go to war. A lot of talk
about check ball. But you're playing bad basketball right now.
Jaylen Brown's got to play better. These guys are going to play better.
They're going to be fine over the course of the season.
I have legitimate concerns about their defense, though.
Brown 在賽季初的表現也不好,但他最終也會打得更好。說到Brown,你一直在談論自己跟
塞爾提克之間的恩怨,一直說你準備好要跟他們大戰一場。一直想「正面較量」,準備跟
對手一較高下,但你現在打的就是很爛的籃球,Jaylen Brown 必須打得更好。
這些球員都會逐漸找回狀態。隨著賽季進行,他們不會有問題的。
不過,我確實對他們的防守有很大的疑慮。
5.Defensive Concerns for Philly
Even though the metrics are good, I'm not sure Embiid's going to be able to
guard some of these teams.
That game last night looked exactly like I thought the season opener against
New York would look.
Attacking Embiid in pick-and-roll, constantly getting the Sixers in rotation,
and then them not being sharp in their off-ball defense.
That's what I talked about before the Knicks game. All of that stuff was on
full display last night against the Celtics.
即使他們的防守數據很好看,我還是不確定 Embiid 是否有能力防守某些球隊。
昨晚那場比賽,跟我原本預期76人對上尼克的開幕戰會出現的情況,幾乎一模一樣。
不斷利用擋拆攻擊 Embiid,持續迫使76人陷入輪轉補防,接著利用他們無球防守不夠到
位的問題。這些就是我在對尼克的比賽前所談到的事情。
而昨晚對上塞爾提克,所有這些問題都完全暴露出來了。
And Embiid is not going to be able to guard good pick-and-roll teams. Not
unless he can park his ass right underneath the basket. And even then, he's
got to do better than he has done to this point.
That's a real concern of mine. Their off-ball attentiveness? Real concern of
mine. Nick Nurse's game plan and flexibility? Real concern of mine.
So it's weird. I'm in a weird spot with this Sixers team. The way their
metrics look doesn't actually reflect how I feel about their units on both
ends of the floor.
Embiid 根本無法防守那些擅長打擋拆的球隊,除非他能夠一直待在籃框正下方防守。
但即使如此,他的表現也必須比目前為止所展現的好得多。
這是我真正擔心的問題之一,他們在無球防守時的專注程度?這也是我非常擔心的問題。
Nurse的防守策略,以及他調整戰術的彈性?同樣讓我非常擔心,所以這真的很奇怪。
我現在對這支76人的評價,處於一個很矛盾的狀態。
因為他們目前呈現出來的數據,根本無法反映我對這支球隊攻防兩端的實際看法。
But again, really impressive win for the Celtics. You can make the case they
look like the best team in the Eastern Conference right now.
I still have my concerns about them offensively in the big picture, but they
are going to have their opportunities. They have a tough schedule over the
course of the rest of this month of November. So we're going to get to see
more opportunities for Boston to address those concerns.
不過話說回來,塞爾提克確實拿下了一場非常令人印象深刻的勝利。
你甚至可以說,他們現在看起來就是東區最強的球隊。
從整體角度來看,我對他們的進攻依然有一些疑慮,但接下來他們還有機會證明自己。
11月剩下的賽程對他們相當艱難。因此,我們還會有更多機會觀察青賽如何解決這些問題
備註
跟昨天版友分析的差不多?
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→ Chanlin01 : 籃球魔皇感覺就有傷阿 打的這麼閃 11/12 11:01
推 holyhelm : 魔皇時好時爛,進季後賽軟腳一定被針對 11/12 11:03
推 ClownT : 9LMB就是這樣了 你不能拿MVP時期的他來比 11/12 11:03
→ love1500274 : 東二確實麻煩了 11/12 11:04
推 ttmm : 有沒有想過 不要再跳投了 乖乖扛C讓主將休息 11/12 11:05
推 jtch : 多次上過ptt是什麼意思 資深版友? 11/12 11:05
推 NBAMLB : 東二歸東二 有看比賽就知道76人還要很多地方需要調 11/12 11:05
→ NBAMLB : 整 不可能整天期待有人手感爆發然後逆轉對手 11/12 11:05
推 ooxxman : 最近幾場姆斯外線被放投,鉛筆狀態又差,快有跡象了 11/12 11:06
→ jtch : LBJ今年是不準 但是去年也沒怎麼傷害湖人吧 要是77 11/12 11:06
→ jtch : 沒受傷 湖人的成績應該是可以的 11/12 11:06
→ jtch : 怎麼說的好像去年很爛一樣 11/12 11:07
噓 ZIDENS : 哪有差不多 只有很爛的部分差不多 結論相反欸== 11/12 11:07
推 coox : LBJ在湖人的問題跟在七六人的問題又不一樣 11/12 11:08
推 super009 : 姆斯抱錯團 早知道去勇士 11/12 11:08
推 melzard : 輸一場就被大噴特噴 前面贏的時候好像不是這樣講 11/12 11:09
推 ricky469rick: 在湖人的問題是防守 現在是進攻 這三分完全被無視 11/12 11:09
→ ricky469rick: 戰績好 但有看比賽就知道了 這幾場大家都開始選擇 11/12 11:10
推 NBAMLB : 前面贏球有幾場LBJ外線稍微可以看 對手防守策略就 11/12 11:10
→ NBAMLB : 不一樣了 至於Embiid真心希望有傷先把傷養好 LBJ認 11/12 11:10
→ NBAMLB : 命一點多扛一些防守 進攻交給其他幾人比較實際 11/12 11:10
→ ricky469rick: 無視他在外維持球 就算拿到球也是沉退放投不放切 11/12 11:11
推 IsoRoy : 詹粉詹黑集結中 11/12 11:12
→ gowaa : 假的 請lbj迷要始終相信 他一定會再得冠軍的哦~ 11/12 11:12
→ ricky469rick: 而且有一點跟在湖人一樣沒變 那就是退防很散漫 11/12 11:12
推 ooxxman : 姆斯防守問題在他不扛中鋒,沒人還不扛繼續硬上鉛筆 11/12 11:12
→ ZIDENS : 這篇不是說的很直接嗎 進攻問題存在但不嚴重 他們自 11/12 11:12
→ shwkz : LBJ需要詹酸督促啊...場均掉太多 和上季一樣放球權 11/12 11:12
→ ricky469rick: 陣地戰防守其實有變好 11/12 11:12
→ ZIDENS : 己會調整 失望但不擔憂 11/12 11:12
→ shwkz : 看起來他就打算消化賽程 衝季後賽而己 卻忽略練投 11/12 11:12
推 EdwardXIII : 鉛筆那個就沒辦法啊,三個要幫他渡過例行賽的替補比 11/12 11:12
→ EdwardXIII : 他先倒到底是什麼地獄笑話 11/12 11:12
→ ZIDENS : 酒令在那邊喔喔喔怎麼會這樣打啊NONONONONO不可以 11/12 11:13
推 NBAMLB : 去年湖人問題是上半季LBJ不肯認命 所以拖累球隊 下 11/12 11:13
→ NBAMLB : 半季開始認命第三選擇之後 湖人才開始有起色 可惜 11/12 11:13
→ NBAMLB : 最後雙星受傷 不然季後賽真的有得打 11/12 11:13
→ ZIDENS : 不可以不可以打十幾場了我好緊張啊啊啊啊 11/12 11:13
→ ZIDENS : 一樣的點在哪 11/12 11:13
推 yokan : LBJ的投籃問題 << 怎麼好像很多年前就說過ww 11/12 11:13
推 mirac1e : 輸球去檢討其他人好嗎 11/12 11:14
→ mirac1e : 不要再檢討42歲底薪抱腿仔了 11/12 11:14
→ mirac1e : 不過贏球的時候可以吹底薪仔吹到爆 嘻嘻 11/12 11:14
推 NBAMLB : Embiid的替補一個一個倒真的無解 知道他的健康有準 11/12 11:14
→ NBAMLB : 備替補 結果本人撐最久 11/12 11:14
推 max011060 : LBJ在弧頂發牌 害我一直想到綠師傅... 11/12 11:14
→ ZIDENS : 一個結論進攻問題很大 防守不錯 一個結論防守問題很 11/12 11:15
推 gigiabc : 三月連勝那波才認清現實當苦工 不是單純下半季好嗎 11/12 11:15
→ ZIDENS : 大 進攻很爛但不擔憂 你是哪篇沒看才會覺得差不多 11/12 11:15
→ shwkz : LBJ就想證明什麼事都能做 反而忘記自己原來樣子 11/12 11:16
推 hisaken : 來了來了 11/12 11:16
推 boggy : 底薪仔你是能要求多少啦 11/12 11:16
→ gigiabc : 而且是LBJ回歸之前湖人就在連勝了 還贏強隊 11/12 11:16
推 gigiii1134 : 這篇好怪 11/12 11:16
→ gigiii1134 : 嫌鉛筆Drop效果差,那..... 11/12 11:16
→ gigiii1134 : 換其他人來效果有比較好嗎? 11/12 11:16
推 NBAMLB : “不要再檢討底薪”這句話應該送給你們自己人吧XD 11/12 11:17
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推 yinaser : 鉛筆能力下降不能期待補防,LBJ又不願意加入補防這 11/12 11:18
→ ricky469rick: 現在切不動了 又不准 裂開 11/12 11:18
推 gigiii1134 : 有點懷疑球評群為啥都沒提鉛筆缺替補而造成嚴重的體 11/12 11:18
→ gigiii1134 : 力不濟 11/12 11:18
→ yinaser : 才是重點常常4打5 11/12 11:18
推 bill840207 : 沒有補防!? 11/12 11:19
推 ju851996 : 其實是馬克西太強,扛得動這兩隻 11/12 11:19
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推 gigiii1134 : 然後大中鋒怕被擋拆調動是啥世紀新發現嗎 11/12 11:20
推 cama : 不認老只想攻擊籃框刷高光,也就這樣了 11/12 11:20
推 DOOT : 8W2L 太早 11/12 11:21
推 bestteam : 沒差啦 過一輪就能自封山羊 這在東區不算太難 76人 11/12 11:22
→ bestteam : 隊友開始練習羊叫了嗎 11/12 11:22
推 NBAMLB : 又抓到好幾個沒看球的XD 11/12 11:23
推 kira925 : @bill 本來三個主要替補鉛筆的 全部躺DL 11/12 11:24
→ ricky469rick: 現在最好的方法就是把LBJ放替補去跟鉛筆錯開 11/12 11:25
→ ricky469rick: DataBallr之前看也是兩人分開反而打更好 11/12 11:25
→ mmchen : 姆斯跳投爛是第一天知道? 11/12 11:26
→ ricky469rick: LBJ要乖乖任命去打替補中鋒 等那幾個病號出院 11/12 11:26
→ jtch : 最好的辦法是他們投進外線= = 又不是不會投籃的人 11/12 11:26
→ jtch : 鉛筆真的只要活到季後賽是健康的就好 常規賽隨便啦 11/12 11:27
→ FiveSix911 : 鉛筆真的爛的一坨 11/12 11:28
→ FiveSix911 : 76人趕快補輪替中鋒吧 不然鉛筆很快又要受傷了 11/12 11:29
噓 yfeel38 : 扛一個副作用廢物還是太超綱了 11/12 11:30
推 coox : 比起跳投 姆斯最大的問題是防守吧 一個防守回合被 11/12 11:30
→ coox : 兩次一步過 該補防也不肯動目送人家投三分 就這球 11/12 11:30
→ coox : 員留在場上幹嘛? 11/12 11:30
推 NBAMLB : 我記得剛開季輪替還是Embiid和LBJ一起第一節後半代 11/12 11:30
→ NBAMLB : 替補 看起來就超卡 最近有改變輪換順序了 11/12 11:30