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標題[外絮]Chet Holmgren如何看待及應付文斑的馬刺
時間Tue Oct 20 14:50:09 2026
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https://www.si.com/nba/what-chet-holmgren-thinks-about-victor-wembanyama-led-spurs-digital-cover
What Chet Holmgren Thinks About the Victor Wembanyama-Led Spurs
—and How He Plans to Bounce Back
The Thunder center’s disastrous Western Conference finals performance left a
poor taste in his mouth. But he and Oklahoma City are back for another
potential title run—a path that now goes through archrival Victor Wembanyama
and the Spurs.
Chris Mannix| 17 hours ago
雷霆中鋒Chet Holmgren對他在西區冠軍賽中低迷的表現仍然難以釋懷,但是他和雷霆
都準備再一次挑戰並且跨越大魔王文斑雅馬的馬刺,再一次拿下金盃。
OKLAHOMA CITY — Chet Holmgren paused, considering the question. Five seconds
passed. Then 10. Then 15. It’s early October, and Holmgren is sitting on a
table inside the Thunder practice facility, stretching his slender, 7' 1"
frame to the floor. For a while, the interview is free-flowing. Holmgren
talked about efforts to improve his shot in the offseason. About building
more strength. Teams threw a lot of different coverages at him last season,
said Holmgren, which is why he committed more time to dissecting game tape.
When the conversation shifts to another subject—Victor Wembanyama—the
conversation stalls. Over the last two years, Wembanyama-Holmgren has emerged
as one of the NBA’s more intriguing rivalries. They are the Tim Duncan and
Kevin Garnett of this era, a pair of elite, two-way, 7-footers. Wembanyama
was the first unanimous Defensive Player of the Year last season, finishing
runner-up for MVP. Holmgren earned his first All-Star and All-NBA nods. The
two clashed last spring in the Western Conference finals. Wembanyama got the
better of the matchup, and the Spurs won the series.
Holmgren isn’t interested in revisiting that matchup with the Spurs or with
Wembanyama. He learned a lot from that series, he says, “but the takeaways
from that are tangible against the other 28 teams, too.” Asked if he
relished the matchup, Holmgren said, “I relish every game.” Asked if
Wembanyama, who has had some not-so-subtle criticisms of Holmgren over the
years, had made the rivalry personal, Holmgren said, “that’s a question for
him.” Asked if going up against the Spurs felt different than matchups with
the Nuggets, Timberwolves, Lakers or any other conference rival, Holmgren
paused.
“I wouldn’t put it that way,” said Holmgren.
How would he put it?
“I don’t know.”
By any metric, Holmgren’s 2025–26 season was outstanding. He averaged
career highs in points, rebounds and field-goal percentage. He was one of two
players to average more than 17 points and eight rebounds while shooting 55%
from the floor and 35% from three. The other? Nikola Jokiﴮ Defensively,
Holmgren was brilliant. Opponents made just 44.9% of two-point attempts when
Holmgren was contesting—the stingiest of any player who defended at least
400 shots.
Chet頓了一下,時間就這麼流逝,坐在雷霆的訓練館內,那是10月初,伸展著他那7呎的
身形,就這樣地北天南的聊了起來,Chet談了休賽季如何精進投射、重訓以及如何透過
影片破解敵隊的防守。
但是談論的主題一旦換成的斑馬,氣氛突然凝重了起來,這二年Wembanyama-Holmgren
的對決是NBA最有看頭的戲碼,被稱作當代的石佛狼王對決,同樣是二位7呎長人。
斑馬拿下全票DPOY MVP第三,Chet則首度入選全明星及all nba的肯定。而在西冠對決中
斑馬不但個人表現出色,也帶領球隊晉級。
Chet不願多著墨那個對戰,從馬刺身上我學了很多,但其他28隊也讓我受益良多。
「那你享受那個系列戰嗎?」「每一場我都很珍惜」
「斑馬提到你總是不留情面,你覺得他是特別珍對你嗎?」「這你得問他」
「那對上馬刺是否和金塊、灰狼或是湖人等西區對手有所不同呢?」「…我不會這樣看」
「那你怎麼看呢?」「我不知道」
By any metric, Holmgren’s 2025–26 season was outstanding. He averaged
career highs in points, rebounds and field-goal percentage. He was one of two
players to average more than 17 points and eight rebounds while shooting 55%
from the floor and 35% from three. The other? Nikola Jokiﴮ Defensively,
Holmgren was brilliant. Opponents made just 44.9% of two-point attempts when
Holmgren was contesting—the stingiest of any player who defended at least
400 shots.
The conference finals, though, were a disaster. Wembanyama averaged 27.3
points in that series. Holmgren averaged 10.7. Wembanyama shot 40% from
three. Holmgren shot 27.3%. In Game 7, Wembanyama racked up 22 points and
seven rebounds. Holmgren collected four and four.
不論怎麼看,Chet上季的表現都很亮眼,得分籃板命中率皆生涯新高,唯二拿下17分8板
55%命中率35%外線,另一個是誰呢?小丑。防守上Chet很聰明,在對位下只讓對手拿到
44.9%的二分命中率(這是400次對位下把對手命中率壓到最低的球員)
雖然西決表現不佳斑馬拿下27.3分40%命中率 Chet只拿下10.7分27.3的命中率,關鍵
第7場更是差別巨大。
When attacking the offseason, Holmgren has a philosophy: Forget everything
that came before it. “Disassociate,” says Holmgren. Win a championship?
Forget it. Get outplayed in the conference finals? Throw that in the bin,
too. “Disassociate from the emotions of it,” says Holmgren. “What happened
is not going to change my approach, how serious and how hard I work at what I
do.”
A year ago, Holmgren did just that. Injuries limited Holmgren to 32 games
during the 2024–25 season. He got healthy before the playoffs and averaged
15.2 points during the Thunder’s title run. He celebrated the championship.
And then got right back to work.
“A lot of that was working on my body,” says Holmgren. “I was coming off a
f---ed up injury. I was pretty f---ed up that whole playoff run. And then I
was able to get my feet under me that summer and it led to a really good
season.”
對於休賽季的遭遇,Chet展現了他的人生哲學:忘了過去,抽離
拿下冠軍? 別去想
西決被壓制?丟進圾垃筒吧 從情緒中抽離
過去讓它過去,專注當下認真努力做好我該做的
不過就一年多年,Chet確實這麼做。傷勢限制了他在25例行賽的表現,但他在季後賽前
恢復健康平均拿下15.2分幫助球隊奪冠,慶功完後旋即又投入了訓練。
我當時的狀況很遭糕,整個季後賽也打不好,但是夏天一步一腳印的訓練,換來了下一
季的好表現。
“It definitely took me a couple weeks to sit there and reflect and think all
that s--- was for nothing,” says Holmgren. “When you lose, it feels like it
was all for nothing because at the end of the day, you don't put all that
f---ing work in just to lose. You know what I mean? You put all that work in
to try and reach the top. And when you don't get there, you can feel like
it's a complete failure.”
When he pushed past it, he got to work. He dove into film, studying how teams
mixed up defenses on him. “I definitely think I saw the most variation from
team to team,” says Holmgren. He worked on his body. Holmgren will never
skyrocket in weight—he’s officially listed at 215 pounds, up a whopping two
from last season—but he feels stronger. He worked on getting his shot off
quicker. He focused on playing with more pace.
那些糟糕的表現讓我沉思了好幾個禮拜,只要沒奪冠,一切似乎都白費了。所有的那些
努力就是不想輸,懂嗎?但是不管再怎麼努力,只要沒有走到最後,沒有到達頂點,所有
的一切就像是全然的失敗。
Texted his longtime trainer, Drew Hanlen, “He trusts himself a lot more and
feels like he has solutions for problems he experienced last season.”
Holmgren agrees.
“It's like improving at one thing, then the game will tell you what you need
to improve at next,” says Holmgren. “Just keep adding the little puzzle
pieces. I had a really good summer of continuing to add puzzle pieces.”
傳訊息給訓練師Drew Hanlen時他說「Chet現在更加相信自已了,去年的教訓讓他更加
懂得如何去應對。
Chet點頭同意,就像你在這個地方取得了進步,透過比賽實戰後的反饋你就會知道哪裡
還有不足,就這樣一步一步,像拼圖一樣。
In Oklahoma City, no one is surprised. “There's guys that their summer
revolves around basketball and there's guys that the basketball fits into
their summer,” says Thunder coach Mark Daigneault. “Chet’s summers revolve
around basketball.” Daigneault pushes back on suggestions that Wembanyama
and the Spurs have Holmgren’s number. “I think they pose problems that are
difficult to solve,” says Daigneault. He’s confident in Holmgren’s ability
to grow from the experience, if for no other reason than he always does.
“I think he had a tough Game 7 and we lost the series,” says Daigneault. “
Obviously there's a lot of emotion and attention on that, but a year earlier
he has a ring on his finger and the reason he does is because he's playing in
the games.
“Let's not forget this guy is a great player. He's an All-Star player. He's
a high, high impact player. And so am I more confident in Chet Holmgren going
into this season? Yes, but not because of San Antonio or anything like that.
It’s because he's a year older, he's got a year more experience, and he's a
great player that had a tough series and internalized it exactly the way you
want him to do that. I'm riding with Chet Holmgren.”
在奧城這並不意外,這些人整個夏天都離不開籃球雷霆主帥Mark Daigneault
說他整個夏天就是繞著籃球轉,雷霆主帥表示馬刺和斑馬對Chet的弱點瞭如指掌,我認
為馬刺他們的確很難對付,但是他仍然看好自已的子弟兵能夠繼續成長。
他在第7戰打得艱難而我們也輸了,而這些總會挑起不少情緒,但是回顧之前的賽季,
正是因為有他的在場才讓我們拿到了冠軍。
別忘了他是個出色的球員、全明星,在場上極具影響力。若問我是否對他的表現有信心?
那當然,但那無關馬刺之類的,而是他這一年來的成長,這樣出色的球員在面臨考驗後
會將這些經驗內化成進步的養份,這我非常有信心。
The spotlight will be on Holmgren this season, beginning on Tuesday when the
Thunder and Spurs renew their rivalry in San Antonio. Holmgren’s status is
uncertain—he has missed the preseason with a quad injury—but if he plays,
head-to-heads with Wembanyama are inevitable. It’s among the best matchups
in basketball, whether Holmgren wants to dive into it or not.
Not that Holmgren’s hiding from it. The challenge, he says, “is always
exciting.” He gets what these games are. What this rivalry is. The Spurs are
a collection of young 20-somethings fresh off a first Finals appearance. The
Thunder are built similarly and are a year removed from a championship. These
battles between the two teams could be chronicled in documentaries years from
now—as could the tussles between Holmgren and Wembanyama.
周二對決馬刺的比賽鎂光燈將會聚焦在Chet身上,仍然Chet是否出戰仍不確定,季前熱身
賽他都因為股四頭肌受傷而缺賽。如果他能夠順利出賽將會非常令人期待,而跟斑馬的
對決更是勢不可免,不論他是否願意多探討。
並不是說他在逃避,Chet說對決讓人興奮。這大概會變成持續長久的宿敵,馬刺是一隻
20來歲的年輕人組成的陣容,剛殺入總決賽。而雷霆也是如此,前一年剛奪冠。
這二隻球隊的戰役可說是才剛拉開序幕,看的就是Chet跟Victor的對戰。
“You don't get extra excited to play a tanking team in December,” says
Holmgren. “A lot of times you're like, ‘F---. Why don't we just get a
f---ing night off instead of having to play [this team]. But when you play
against teams that you know you have to bring your best against, I'd
definitely say that's like, I'll use your words, you relish the games, you
have to bring your best against.”
And the matchup with Wemby?
“You can't get so wrapped up in just that, that you forget the process and
the steps that it takes to work towards the goal we're trying to work towards,
” says Holmgren. “They're a very talented young team. There's no denying
that. And I'd say, I mean, we're a very talented young team too, and that
leads to some very fiery, competitive basketball games.”
在12月對決墊底球隊並不會讓人太興奮Chet表示,與其跟他們打,我倒想多會會馬刺
跟馬刺對決你得拿出渾身解數,就像你所說的,這是會讓我珍惜的比賽,你必須要全力
以赴
「那跟斑馬的對決呢?」
你不能只想著跟個人榮譽,而忘了整個大局的過程,忘了我們設定所要達到的目標。
他們是非常出色的年輕人,這一點無可否認,當然我們也是,所以這場比賽將會充滿
張力。
--
Chet生涯大概逃不掉跟斑馬的比較,真的只有既生瑜,何生亮的感概。
雖然都是名滿天下的球星,但他們也都只是20來歲的年輕人,
被拿來比較,輸了一定會有不甘,希望能夠將其化為動力,帶給我們更精彩的比賽了
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推 acln0816 : 一直迴避斑馬的問題 心魔真的很嚴重… 10/20 14:54
推 joexnozomi : 他從以前就沒正面回答過 這也算心魔? 10/20 14:56
推 k7202001 : 很難吧 斑馬三季以來每季都有巨大進步 從防守強進攻 10/20 14:56
→ k7202001 : 粗糙到不行 到第二季進攻大進化 第三季直接mvp候選 10/20 14:56
→ k7202001 : 下季斑馬只會更恐怖而已 10/20 14:56
→ k7202001 : 反觀Chet每季也有一點進步 但就一點而已 10/20 14:57
推 liefuchen : 你這翻譯沒有註明哪些話是球員說的 讀起來很痛苦 10/20 14:59
啊 抱歉 本來沒想到打這一篇花這麼久的時間,晚一點回去有機會會改
推 JaegwonKim : 窩 10/20 14:59
推 iamaq18c : 看起來還是有陰影 都不正面回應對斑馬的問題 10/20 14:59
推 ccccccccccc : 外絮不能放簽名檔 10/20 15:00
感謝提醒
推 Q12345Q : 兩個人都被問到煩了 嘴巴怎麼說 還是得場上說話 10/20 15:01
→ brian040818 : 他每次被問都這樣 而斑馬是不屑答 10/20 15:01
推 TDKnight : 確實講到斑馬chet好像都會避談 雖然1>0 但是斑馬太 10/20 15:01
→ TDKnight : 猛了 10/20 15:01
推 QoGIVoQ : 一個是PTSD 一個沒放在眼裡 10/20 15:02
推 joexnozomi : 斑馬臭過很多次 哪有不屑答 10/20 15:02
→ joexnozomi : 在意的是斑馬吧 畢竟青少年世界盃金牌戰直接輸給Ch 10/20 15:03
→ joexnozomi : et 10/20 15:03
推 vince4687 : 文一兒 10/20 15:06
推 FAYeeeeeeee : 心態很好啊 重視失利 同時沒忘了不只馬刺一個對手 10/20 15:09
→ ayubabbit : 我不知道 10/20 15:12
推 wasiyyy : 斑馬對Chet針對性真的很強...對決的時候超明顯 10/20 15:13
推 asfg465223 : Chet都不想引戰 反觀馬師傅就ㄧ直偷臭 從他季後賽在 10/20 15:14
→ asfg465223 : 那髒人的動作 就覺得這人手腳都不乾淨 10/20 15:14
→ wasiyyy : 無奈Chet跟斑馬的技能包太重疊了 只能一直被比較 10/20 15:14
※ 編輯: KirkSynder (42.70.105.10 臺灣), 10/20/2026 15:17:52
推 jenchieh5 : chet就只是想當好二把手而已,斑馬不知道為啥很愛臭 10/20 15:15
→ jenchieh5 : 他 10/20 15:15
→ jenchieh5 : 明明球隊老大就是sga 10/20 15:16
推 ghostxx : 因為U19,斑馬一開始NBA成長動力就是把切特打爆 10/20 15:18
→ dash007 : 就算Chet限制不了斑馬也不奇怪,只是對上馬刺他好 10/20 15:19
→ dash007 : 像也無法大打小其他人,這才是問題… 10/20 15:19
推 love1500274 : 1>0 10/20 15:20
推 RevanHsu : 1>0 等斑馬拿冠的那一天再來崩潰也不遲 10/20 15:22
推 swatch790513: 已經是心理問題了 切特打其他人的表現對比其他人打 10/20 15:23
→ swatch790513: 斑馬的表現 就能看出來 10/20 15:23
推 jay228 : 走的遠比較重要 獨角獸型生涯普遍都不長 10/20 15:23
→ swatch790513: 不然以切特的技能包對抗是會占下風 不至於這麼沒用 10/20 15:24
推 e2167471 : 生涯普遍不長的那種獨角獸是只有防守的,只是講好聽 10/20 15:25
→ e2167471 : 一點叫他獨角獸而已,事實上KD Curry剛嶄露頭角的時 10/20 15:25
→ e2167471 : 候都算是獨角獸 10/20 15:25
推 swatch790513: 沒有吧 獨角獸型指的是身材很好 速率協調性卻很快的 10/20 15:27
→ swatch790513: curry絕對不是 10/20 15:27
推 oa0416 : 原來熱身賽都沒打是因為有傷 10/20 15:27
→ e2167471 : ?抱歉不知道為什麼打成Curry,KP才對 10/20 15:32
→ seiya1201 : 都2026了 還有記者在炒斑馬轟滾宿敵 10/20 15:32
推 LoMing1021 : 不一定是心理問題 他的職業生涯一定都會被拿來跟斑 10/20 15:33
→ LoMing1021 : 馬比較 講得太自信或不自信都會被酸 避答也是一個選 10/20 15:33
→ LoMing1021 : 擇 10/20 15:33
→ seiya1201 : 當代的石佛狼王...這有點太吹了吧 馬刺vs雷霆是還有 10/20 15:37
→ seiya1201 : 得打 但斑馬vs轟滾 這已經沒有比較空間了 10/20 15:37
推 LeGGoRay : 切特就不錯的球員,但連球隊老大都不是,老實講一 10/20 15:38
→ LeGGoRay : 直拿來跟斑馬比對蠻莫名其妙的 10/20 15:38
推 ThreeNG : 不是同一個等級的球員,沒有瑜亮情節的問題( ̄▽ ̄ 10/20 15:38
→ ThreeNG : ) 10/20 15:38
→ freezeraven : 記者需要話題,不然1>0就結束對話了 10/20 15:39
→ taruru : 窩不知道 10/20 15:40
推 madaofreak : 記者也很愛當樂子人,不斷幫斑馬複習瑜亮情節,讓他 10/20 15:41
→ madaofreak : 打切寶都特別用力 10/20 15:41
推 zxcv458162 : 斑馬被問一問就會惱羞吧 10/20 15:42
→ zxcv458162 : 明明就不同層級的球員,不知道為什麼心眼超小 10/20 15:43
推 DOOT : 坐板凳試試Mara吧 10/20 15:43
→ zxcv458162 : 論防守端都是獨角獸,進攻端就完全不一樣了 10/20 15:43
推 xd4664 : 明明就沒有可比性記者還要一直問 10/20 15:44
推 jtch : 他確實不需要談跟斑馬的比較 但怎麼對付他這件事就 10/20 15:44
推 islandant : 法國人是不是都有種傲氣啊?就相信自己判斷才對的那 10/20 15:46
→ islandant : 種 10/20 15:46
推 lion01123 : 斑馬也覺得很煩阿 我跟他不同層級的 還要一直問XDD 10/20 15:47
推 madaofreak : 要拿來對比的是老大SGA,但切特就是一直被推出來 10/20 15:47
推 SweetRice : 竹節蟲:窩不知道.jpg 10/20 15:50
推 lukakakakaka: 鬥心都沒有是蠻慘的。Kp打斑馬都比Chet打得好 10/20 15:50
推 cysticercus : 當然一直問 講錯話今晚就有標題了 10/20 15:51
推 toolittle : 爸爸讓一下 10/20 15:54
推 jzbobby : Presti只有拿斑馬兒子去尼克換斑馬爸爸才有機會再奪 10/20 15:59
→ jzbobby : 冠 10/20 15:59
推 IbmabRE : 系列賽被正面打爆的老三冠軍喊1>0也沒說服力啊 10/20 16:02
推 ILLwill : 斑馬可以爭MVP,Chet是明星,上限差異就在那邊 10/20 16:04
推 green0953 : 爸爸 10/20 16:10
推 arnold61105 : 沒事 MARA來幫你扛了 其實CHET準起來不輸KAT就是 10/20 16:17
推 Jeter : 1 >0這麼萬能 你怎不說書豪>CP3 10/20 16:19
推 momo3921d : Mara 看起來比較有機會抗衡斑馬,只拿4分的就別提了 10/20 16:22
推 hichung : 問就是1>0 爸爸又怎麼樣 10/20 16:29
推 riceton : 1>0 鎖漢也>斑馬 10/20 16:32
→ kaka2001 : 學斑馬去少林寺廚藝學院啊 10/20 16:36
推 AterPin : 一直吵這個真的是蠻無聊的 10/20 16:38
推 yayan1010 : 一個有冠,一個沒冠,要比啥? 10/20 16:42
推 Aretimis7345: 應該是心魔問題 切特打其他隊就很正常 對上斑馬 10/20 16:43
→ Aretimis7345: 感覺就整個縮回去 連外線都沒了 斑馬很少守他外線 10/20 16:43
→ Aretimis7345: 新模讓他對上班馬整體狀況降了不只一檔 10/20 16:44
→ Aretimis7345: 心魔 10/20 16:45
推 sadod : 斑馬:我不把他打爆,別人會誤以為我們是同級 10/20 16:52
推 tomlee1130 : 不爽明年打回來就好了,看看道奇酒人 10/20 16:56