※ [本文轉錄自 BaseballXXXX 看板 #1fV2SPa9 ] 作者: zxc906383 (無無) 看板: BaseballXXXX 標題: [分享] 美國隊教頭專訪：原本Zack Wheeler也要打 時間: Fri Jan 30 11:35:51 2026 美國隊教頭Mark DeRosa接受Ken Rosenthal專訪 https://i.imgur.com/Xu4Gf9F.jpeg 裡面提到整個組隊過程和考量 像是會選書僮是因為上次被老墨打爆的經驗XD 發現需要一位緊急長中繼 也透露Zack Wheeler原本已經答應會打，可惜受傷QQ 另外工具人也考慮過Bellinger https://reurl.cc/R9MYyg What is the difference between the way you’ve constructed the roster for this t eam as opposed to how you did it in 2023? 這次在組建名單時，和2023年相比，有什麼不同？ The team we’ve been able to build, it’s a testament to the players wanting to do it. I’ve got to come out and say that. 我們能夠組出現在這支球隊，完全是因為球員們「真的想來打」，這一點我一定要先說清楚 This started back probably in spring training of last year. Aaron (Judge) basica lly let it be known to Andy Pettitte that he was interested in doing it. I jumpe d on it right away and called Aaron. He was like, I’m 100 percent in. 這件事大概從去年春訓就開始了，Aaron（Judge）基本上先讓Andy Pettitte知道他有興趣 參加，我馬上就抓住機會打給Aaron，他直接跟我說：「我百分之百願意」 Obviously, you’ve got to hope they stay healthy the entire season and everythin g goes according to plan. 當然你一定得祈禱他們整個賽季都保持健康、事情照計畫走 But the biggest home runs happened early, with Aaron coming on board and wanting to lead and be a captain for the team. And then, one of the greatest calls ever was Paul Skenes. 但最大的全壘打其實很早就出現了，Aaron願意加入，還想扛起領袖、隊長的角色，接著另 一通史上最棒的電話之一，就是打給Paul Skenes I wanted to see where he was at. I knew with the military background that it wou ld play on his heart. 我想確認他的想法，也知道他有軍人背景，這件事一定會打動他的內心 I certainly understand guys are at different stages of their careers. They value certain things differently. 我完全理解，每個人職涯階段不同，在意的事情也不一樣 I called him very early on in the season. I had a whole pitch planned. He kind o f cut me off. 我在賽季很早的時候就打給他，原本準備好一整套說詞，結果他直接打斷我 He goes, “DeRo, you don’t have to make your pitch, I am 100 percent in. I want to do this for every serviceman and servicewoman out there. It means a lot to m e to put USA across my chest.” 他說：「DeRo，你不用說服我，我百分之百願意，我想為所有正在服役的軍人而打，能把US A穿在胸前，對我意義重大」 When we had Aaron Judge from a position-player standpoint and Paul Skenes from a pitching standpoint, the two pillars were in place to build off. 當我們在野手端有Aaron Judge、投手端有Paul Skenes，這兩根支柱就已經立好了，接下來 就是往上搭建 Did those guys help you recruit? 這些球員有幫忙你招募其他人嗎？ I knew how I wanted to build it. Certainly, I asked a bunch of people. 我其實很清楚自己想怎麼組隊，當然也詢問了很多人的意見 I wanted (pitching coach) Andy Pettitte to feel comfortable with the pitching st aff. And (general manager) Mike Hill has been great in helping me. 我希望投手教練Andy Pettitte能對投手群感到安心，總管Mike Hill也給了我很大的幫助 Obviously, (coaches) Michael Young, Brian McCann, we’ve all put our heads toget her. 當然像Michael Young、Brian McCann這些教練，我們都一起集思廣益 Pat O’Shea was the analytics guy from the Dodgers last time in 2023. And Eric N ehs (a researcher from MLB Network), I’ve brought him on board. 2023年時，道奇的分析人員Pat O’Shea有參與；這次我也把MLB Network的研究員Eric Neh s 拉進團隊 I value their opinions. But I kind of knew how I wanted to go about building thi s out based on 2023. 我很重視他們的意見，但其實根據2023的經驗，我大致已經知道這次該怎麼組 What did you learn in ’23 that informed you in putting together this roster? 你從2023年學到什麼，影響了這次的名單建構？ Certainly, you were going to have superstars at every position. That goes withou t saying. 當然，每個位置都會有超級球星，這是理所當然的 But I also think you have to build a team. Guys have to understand roles, lineup construction… 但我也認為你必須「組一支球隊」，球員要清楚自己的角色、打線安排、誰先發、誰接手、 牛棚誰能投一又三分之一局、誰負責銜接下一棒 I felt like in ’23 it was a lot of who was going to say “yes,” instead of pin pointing how we build these teams… 我覺得2023年比較像是「誰願意點頭就找誰」，而不是精準規劃要怎麼組一支讓其他國家難 以對付的球隊 So in ’23, you were just trying to get a team together? 所以2023年，你比較像是在把人湊齊？ I got in late. (GM) Tony Reagins did a helluva job recruiting Mike Trout, Arenad o. 我加入得比較晚，總管 Tony Reagins 在招募 Mike Trout、Arenado 方面做得非常出色 The team was pretty much built by the time I got named manager (on Aug. 19). 等我在 8 月 19 日被任命為總教練時，球隊幾乎已經組好了 I definitely put my two cents in. Kyle Schwarber, Kyle Tucker, those were guys I wanted to add to give the lineup some left-handed firepower. 當時我確實也提供了自己的意見，我想加進 Kyle Schwarber、Kyle Tucker，為打線增加一 些左打火力 But the pitching staff was pretty much in place. We tried to go with the team th at we had. 但投手群基本上已經就位，我們只能用現有的球隊來應戰 This time, I sometimes pinch myself. 這一次，我有時候都會捏自己一下，確認這一切是真的 As a kid, I used to sit there and think if I ever got an opportunity to build a dream team… 小時候我常幻想，如果有一天能打造一支夢幻隊伍，會長什麼樣子 Right-left-right-left all the way down with lineup construction. Value defense. Value velocity on the mound. 打線左右交錯、重視防守、投手丘上重視球速 But the overall thing — and Andy Pettitte kept coming back to this — we want g uys who want to be in the room… 但最重要的一點，也是Andy Pettitte一直強調的，就是我們要的是「真的想待在這個休息 室裡的人」 It throws their spring training into flux, just the way the schedule is laid out . You have to want to be a part of it. 以賽程的安排來看，這件事一定會打亂球員的春訓節奏，所以你必須是真心想參與其中 The guys have been fantastic about that. 而這些球員在這方面的態度都非常棒 I also feel there was such a groundswell after ’23, some of the moments we were able to have, good and bad… 我也覺得2023年之後出現了一股強大的共鳴，無論是好的還是壞的時刻 From Trea Turner’s grand slam (against Venezuela in the quarterfinals) to the T rout-Ohtani matchup (in the final). 從Trea Turner在八強賽對委內瑞拉的滿貫砲，到決賽的Trout對決大谷翔平。 The entire tournament just grabbed this tidal wave of emotion with people. 整個賽事捲起了一股情緒的巨大浪潮 I think a lot of the players saw it and wanted to be a part of it. 我想很多球員看到了這一切，也因此想要成為其中的一員 Makeup was part of the equation in your selections? 你在選人時，也把球員性格、氣質（團隊化學）納入考量嗎？ One hundred percent. That’s not (to criticize) anything about the ’23 guys. 百分之百有，但這並不是在批評2023年的那些球員 You could have gone a myriad of ways with it. 其實有很多種不同的組隊方式。 I just felt like starting with Aaron Judge, how do we complement him in the line up? 我只是覺得，既然以Aaron Judge為核心，那打線該如何圍繞他來配置？ Obviously, Bobby Witt at shortstop. Obviously, (Alex) Bregman at third base… 很明顯地，游擊是Bobby Witt，三壘是Alex Bregman (Bryce) Harper at first, Schwarber. 一壘是Bryce Harper，再加上Schwarber These are guys, I feel, who are going to feed off each other. 我覺得這些球員彼此之間會互相激勵 And ultimately, playing (the semifinals and final) in Miami (if Team USA qualifi es), defense is a premium. 而且如果美國隊晉級，在邁阿密打準決賽與決賽，防守會變得極為重要 There are not a ton of runs scored, just because it’s so early in the season. 由於賽季才剛開始，得分通常不會很多 How do we grind out runs? How do we play great defense without putting a bunch o f guys out of position? 那我們該怎麼把分數磨出來？又如何在不讓球員勉強守不熟位置的情況下打出高品質防守？ It all played into it. 這些全部都納入了考量 I remember, last time, the restrictions the major-league teams placed on their p itchers… How do you handle that this time? 我記得上一次，大聯盟球隊對投手使用了許多限制，這讓你非常困擾，這次你要怎麼應對？ It’s still going to be there. That’s why I tried to build it out a little diff erently, so guys had roles. 這些限制依然存在。這也是為什麼我這次稍微用不同的方式來組建投手群，讓每個人都有明 確的角色 It’s also why we added Clayton Kershaw. 這也是我們把 Clayton Kershaw 加入球隊的原因 You go back to the Mexico game, we got caught. There was a scenario where Brady Singer had to cover some innings for us even though it wasn’t optimal for him, because we weren’t going to be able to cover the next day. 回顧對墨西哥的比賽，我們真的被卡住了，當時出現一種情況，Brady Singer被迫多投一些 局數，即使對他來說並不理想，不然隔天比賽我們將沒有足夠投手應戰 (Singer threw 53 pitches in two innings and allowed four runs in Team USA’s 11- 5 defeat.) （Singer兩局投了 53 球，失掉 4 分，最終美國隊以 11-5 敗給墨西哥） That game scared me more than anything into building the pitching staff this tim e. We got straight-up caught. 那場比賽讓我對這次組建投手群比任何事情都更加謹慎，那次我們真的完全被卡住了 If Lance Lynn doesn’t go 65 pitches against Canada the next day … if you think back to the Mexico game, Devin Williams came in for one pitch. I just assumed h e could go back out for the ninth, and we wouldn’t have to use Pressly, and we could bump him to the next day. 如果隔天 Lance Lynn 對加拿大沒投到 65 球……回想墨西哥那場比賽，Devin Williams 上場只投了一球，我原本以為他可以再回去投第九局，這樣我們就不用用 Pressly，也可以 把 Pressly 排到隔天使用 And then we had to use Pressly, so we had only so many relievers to back Lance L ynn up. 結果我們還是得用 Pressly，因此能支援 Lance Lynn 的中繼投手數量有限 (Lynn worked five innings and Miles Mikolas two against Canada before the mercy rule was invoked in the seventh inning with Team USA leading, 12-1.) （Lynn 對加拿大投了五局，Miles Mikolas 投了兩局，之後比賽在七局啟動「提前扣倒規 則」（mercyrule），美國隊當時以 12-1 領先。） So it was like, wow, we need some kind of long man in case that scenario present s itself. 所以我心裡想，哇，我們需要一位「長中繼投手」以防類似情況再次發生。 The only problem is, who’s going to do that, getting ready for a season with th e chance they don’t pitch? 唯一的問題是，誰願意擔這個角色？要準備整個賽季的時候，卻可能完全沒有上場機會 There really isn’t a current player that a team was going to allow (a scenario) where we might get him an inning, we might get him four, we might not get him a ny at all. 其實目前沒有任何球員的球隊會允許這種情況：可能投一局、可能投四局，也可能完全不上 場 My brain just kept going, how can we have somebody who can give us 60 pitches if it hit the fan? 我腦中一直想，如果事情失控，我們要怎麼找到一個能投 60 球的人？ That’s how I presented the opportunity to Clayton, and he jumped on it. 這就是我怎麼把這個機會提出給 Clayton 的，他立刻答應了 So, including him wasn’t simply ceremonial? 所以把他放進名單，不只是象徵性的？ I think it’s twofold… 我覺得有兩層意義 The starting pitchers, the entire pitching staff, wanted to be around him. 所有先發投手、整個投手群都想和他在同一個環境 It just made total sense for coverage for us to not have to burn an entire bullp en to get through a game. 而從投手調度保險來看，這樣安排完全合理，這樣就不用燒牛棚才能完成一場比賽 These guys are not pitching back-to-back days at that (point of the spring). The re’s no way we could pull it off. 畢竟在春訓那個時期，這些投手不可能連續兩天上場 Hopefully that doesn’t happen, and our starters go out there and are fire for 6 0-65 pitches. 當然希望需要使用緊急長中繼這事不會發生 我們的先發投手能正常投吃完60-65 球 But if the situation presented itself, I wanted to have an option to reset our p en. 但如果真的發生狀況，我希望能有選項來重新安排牛棚 What about Skenes and Skubal? How are you going to use them? 那Skenes和Skubal 呢？你打算怎麼用他們？ We’re going to start ’em. 我們會讓他們先發 One thing Paul Skenes said when I talked to him in April was that he wanted to b e surrounded by guys he could learn from as well. He was big about that. 我四月和Paul Skenes 聊天時，他說過一件事：他希望身邊有能讓他學習進步的球員，他非 常重視這點 He wanted to be around guys he thought could help him get better. 他希望和那些他認為能幫助他變得更好的球員待在一起 I called (Zack) Wheeler. Wheeler was in until he went down (in August when he un derwent surgery to remove a blood clot in his right shoulder). 我也打給了 Zack Wheeler，他原本已經答應會打，直到八月因為右肩血栓手術而退出 I obviously called Tarik. 我當然也打給 Tarik（Skubal） With Tarik, I completely understand the situation he’s in (as a potential free agent next offseason). We just slow-played it throughout the year. 對於Tarik，我完全理解他的處境（下個休賽季可能成為自由球員），所以整年我們都採取 慢慢來的策略 I told him, I’m trying to build a Dream Team. And if I’m building the best rot ation the game has to offer, you’re certainly at the top of it. 我告訴他：「我正在打造一支夢幻隊，而如果我要組建棒球史上最強的先發輪值，那你絕對 裡面的頭號先發」 And until I hear you tell me no, I’ll just circle back every two months and see where you’re at. Andy Pettitte was doing the same. 在你親口拒絕之前，我會每兩個月再聯絡一次看看你的意願，Andy Pettitte 也採取同樣做 法 We left these guys alone the entire year, but every once in a while, I would che ck in with them. 我們整年都給這些球員空間，但偶爾我會跟他們確認狀況 He kept saying, don’t give up on me, I really want to do it. 他一直說：「別放棄我，我真的很想參加」 I talked to (Detroit Tigers manager) A.J. Hinch about it. A.J. felt good about i t. Tarik felt good about it. 我也和老虎隊總教練 A.J. Hinch 談過這件事，A.J. 覺得可行，Tarik 也覺得可以 When I hung up the phone with him, I was like, oh my God, I can’t believe he’s going to do it. We are super-excited to have him. 掛掉電話後，我心裡想：「天啊，我不敢相信他真的會來，我們非常興奮能有他加入」 How many spots do you still need to fill? 你現在還需要補幾個球員？ One or two. One will be a position player. One will probably be a starter. The i nsurance component and the team signing off on it all play massive parts in it. 大約一到兩個，一個會是野手，另一個可能是先發投手，保險以及球隊的批准在這其中扮演 了很重要的角色 The last position spot, what do you want, someone who is versatile? 最後那個野手名額，你希望找一個多守位的嗎？ Yeah. We’re going to look at it. I had my eye on (Cody) Bellinger. I thought Be llinger would serve a perfect purpose for it. 對，我們會去考慮，我原本考慮 Cody Bellinger，我覺得他會非常適合這個角色 But him signing with the Yankees and going through everything, he has decided no t to do it. And I completely understand that. So, someone in that vein. 但他和洋基簽約後，經過一番考量後，他決定不參加，我完全理解，所以我們繼續會找類似 的球員 There aren’t many guys like Bellinger. 像Bellinger 這種球員並不多 That’s the problem. So, do we go with another first baseman? Do we go with anot her outfielder? Do we go with a third catcher so we can use Cal Raleigh and Will Smith as potential pinch-hitters late if they’re not starting that day? 這就是問題所在，我們要再找一個一壘手嗎？再找一個外野手嗎？還是找第三個捕手，這樣 可以在Cal Raleigh 和 Will Smith 當天沒先發時，讓他們作為代打使用？ I just felt like in ’23, every time I looked at the bench, it was like, where’ s the move if one needs to be made? There just wasn’t. 我只是覺得2023 年，每次看替補席時，心裡想：「如果需要調整，我們要怎麼動？」但其 實根本沒辦法 Bobby Witt Jr. couldn’t get on the field the last time. You wanted to play him, but couldn’t find a spot. Now he’s at the center of it all. Bobby Witt Jr上一次根本沒有上場機會，你想讓他打球，但找不到位置，現在他已經成為 球隊的核心 In ’23, that was kind of a Christian Laettner-type deal. (Laettner was the only collegian and last man on the 1992 U.S. Olympic men’s basketball team.) Everyo ne knew he was going to be a superstar. He wanted to be around those guys, see w hat their processes were like. Then you leave the field every day going, oh my G od, this kid is so talented, how do we find a way to get him on the field? 在2023 年，這有點像Christian Laettner 的情況（Laettner 是 1992 年美國奧運男籃隊 唯一的大學生，也是最後一個被選上的隊員） 大家都知道他將會成為超級巨星，他想待在那些球員身邊，看看他們的訓練方式，然後你每 天離開球場時，心裡都想：「天啊，這小子太有天賦了，我們怎麼讓他上場？」 Trea (Turner) was hitting all those homers. We didn’t want to play Bobby out of position at second base. Trea (Turner) 打了那麼多全壘打，我們不想讓 Bobby 去守他在不熟悉的二壘 It’s funny, when I walked up to Bobby in spring training this year. I did the R oyals (for MLB Network). I said, “Obviously, I’m going to want you to play sho rtstop for Team USA.” He said, “I’m starting, right?’” I said, “Yeah, I th ink you’re going to start.” 有趣的是，今年春訓時，我跟Bobby說：「很明顯，我希望你在美國隊守游擊」他問：「我 會先發吧？」我回答：「對，我覺得你會先發」 Anyone you wanted to include but couldn’t? 有沒有你想選，卻選不了的人？ I wish the roster was 40 guys deep. There are guys deserving of being on this te am that won’t be. And it kills me. 我真希望名單可以有 40 人，明明有些球員值得入選，但卻進不了，這讓我很痛心 Who in particular? 特別是誰呢？ J.T. Realmuto certainly comes to mind. The way the rules are, it just doesn’t w arrant having three catchers. 當然有J.T. Realmuto 但我們沒必要帶三個捕手 Trea Turner is another one. Bobby and Gunnar (Henderson) are probably going to p lay short. 另一個是Trea Turner Bobby 和 Gunnar (Henderson) 會分擔游擊 Trea, he carried our offense the last time. I just feel like it’s Bobby’s time . Gunnar gives us a different look from the left side. Trea上一次帶動了我們的進攻，但我覺得現在該是Bobby的時代了，Gunnar則給我們左打的 選擇 I wanted to have some youthful energy in there mixed with some veterans and try to get after it for 2 1/2 weeks. 我希望在陣容中加入一些年輕活力，搭配幾位資深球員，在這兩週半的賽程中全力拼戰 Overall, you’re ready to go? 整體來說，你準備好了嗎？ I couldn’t be more jacked up for it. 我感到無比興奮 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 223.137.247.126 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/BaseballXXXX/M.1769744153.A.909.html ※ 編輯: zxc906383 (223.137.247.126 臺灣), 01/30/2026 11:36:20 ※ 編輯: zxc906383 (223.137.247.126 臺灣), 01/30/2026 11:36:59 ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ※ 轉錄者: carlchang092 (111.71.213.250 臺灣), 01/30/2026 11:40:43